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Post  Fonzirelli on Tue Sep 08, 2009 4:46 pm

What do you want changed? I'll discuss this with my VP and we will have debates here. If a proposition gets enough momentum here it will be voted on.

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Post  Rat Racecar on Tue Sep 08, 2009 7:28 pm

Consecutive term limits? Can the President run for re-election as many times as he/she wants, or is there a set maximum of terms that the President/VP can sit?

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Post  Lower Land on Tue Sep 08, 2009 7:33 pm

IRL, I personally strongly dislike the current Presidential term limits. I, Mr. President, propose that we do not set any term limits.

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Post  Fonzirelli on Tue Sep 08, 2009 8:16 pm

That's what this is here for, debate.

I would like to think about this one before I give an answer. Great proposition RR.

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Post  Gramstandard on Wed Sep 09, 2009 12:35 am

One month term limits maximum. Can serve for a maximum of one re-election.
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Post  Lower Land on Wed Sep 09, 2009 3:11 pm

We already have the term length at two months, I thought... But not allowing the President to be reelected more than once is restraining on the people's rights to have who they want as President.

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Post  Rat Racecar on Wed Sep 09, 2009 7:56 pm

I knew about the actual length of each term, I was referring to the number of consecutive terms one can attempt to hold office.

Two, maybe three at the most, in my opinion.

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Post  Gramstandard on Wed Sep 09, 2009 10:52 pm

I'd like to propose full administrative powers for all substantially active members. There's no reason all the power should be in the hands of a few.
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Post  Meadowdale on Thu Sep 10, 2009 8:56 am

There's also no reason that have that many cooks in the proverbial kitchen. Most, if not all, requests of the members are met by the government, and if they aren't that's only because said requests would be in direct conflict with someone else's, and the President sides with that other group.

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Post  Peecekeeper on Thu Sep 10, 2009 9:11 pm

define 'administrative powers'.what powers do the admnistrators have? why should we have these powers spread to everyone?
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Post  Aidsboat Nation on Sat Sep 12, 2009 12:49 am

I disagree with the proposition of a term limit. I think it's non-conducive to the democratic process, and if one is doing very well in a position, it shouldn't be a formality that forces him out of office.

If he doesn't do a good job, then he will be voted out.

Also, against the idea of full administrative powers for all. That's just unnecessary and could lead to shennanigans. That's why admin exists.
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Post  Batiska on Sat Sep 12, 2009 7:43 am

I'm not for term limit. This concept in fact, was introduce in US not for real democracy reason but because candidates to be president are old. I think it was introduce after Roosevelt who was President, but old and sick.

This is not the kind of issue we will have in Free Society. Why a member who is a good president cannot be elected by members x times if they want him / her as President?
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Post  Lower Land on Sat Sep 12, 2009 10:42 am

[quote="batiska"]I'm not for term limit. This concept in fact, was introduce in US not for real democracy reason but because candidates to be president are old. I think it was introduce after Roosevelt who was President, but old and sick. quote]

This is correct. The Amendemnt to the U.S. Constitution was ratified while Truman, Franklin Roosevelt's Vice President and therefore the succesor if the President did not complete his full term for any reason (resignation, death, etc.). Before Roosevelt's election to the Presidency, it was an "unwritten" law that the President only be elected twice because George Washington, the First President, did not seek a third term. In fact, both presidents Uylesses S. Grant and Theodore Roosevelt (Franklin Roosevelt's cousin) sought a third term and were servely attacked for it. They both lost miserabley. So after Franklin Roosevelt was elected four times, instead of keeping it an "unwritten" law, they actually made it a "written" law. I feel that it is extremely unfair to the American people. If they was someone to be President for 100 years, then the constitution should allow it.

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Post  Batiska on Sat Sep 12, 2009 4:14 pm

Thank you for this complement of information, LowerLand. Interresting, really.
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Post  Lower Land on Sat Sep 12, 2009 4:53 pm

Of course. I have a wealth of knowledge in that subject.

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Post  Fonzirelli on Sun Sep 13, 2009 10:14 am

Voting on this Prop. starts today and ends next Sunday. Let the voting begin.

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New Prop.

Post  Fonzirelli on Sun Sep 13, 2009 10:15 am

Who will be the Recruitment officers? Nominations or suggestions would be great.

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Post  Rat Racecar on Sun Sep 13, 2009 12:59 pm

Are we voting here or in the voting booth forum?

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Post  Fonzirelli on Mon Sep 14, 2009 5:41 pm

Here would be good unless someone wants to set up a vote.

Sorry but I don't have that kind of time right now

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Post  Rat Racecar on Mon Sep 14, 2009 6:30 pm

Fair enough.

I vote for.

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Post  Lower Land on Mon Sep 14, 2009 6:34 pm

For Term Limits right?

Nay

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Post  Aidsboat Nation on Tue Sep 15, 2009 8:04 pm

Against term limits, for recruitment LOL
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Post  Batiska on Wed Sep 16, 2009 5:27 am

Against term limit
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